Wu-Tang Clan + Def Leppard= Cream and Sugar

July 24, 2009 by  
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I’ve always been a big fan of Def Leppard, particularly their tune “Pour Some Sugar On Me.” I obviously remember the tune from when I was a kid in the 80s, my brother and I were all into hair metal and shit like that. Pretty much all the big bands at the time got play at our crib.

So I was on a plane a few years ago, and I just kind of rediscovered the song on my iPod (since broken), and thought, wow the intro to the song really goes hard. And then I just put it on the back burner.

Until last night, when I was browsing a folder of Wu-Tang acapellas that I’d recently compiled for a completely different project. I figured, let me just give it a whirl and see how “CREAM” sounds on the beginning of the tune.

I liked Rae’s flow over the drums and the power chords, so I did a little bit of rearranging with some of the different parts of the song, chopped out a drum roll here, dragged a guitar sequence there. Then I completely overhauled Rae and Deck’s vocals by adding some distortion effects, some new delays, a better reverb than the one that was original on the song. I basically wanted the vocals to sound like Rae and Deck cut them to Def Leppard’s track. I’m not fond of when DJs just throw acapellas over instrumentals and it sounds like a blend. I like mash-ups of songs to sound like they were meant to be together.

So here it is…

Wu-Tang + Def Leppard= “Cream and Sugar” (remixed by DJ George Bailey and Gooch)

FYI DJ George Bailey’s the new alias. The reinvention begins.


Does Wu-Tang Chamber Music + Raekwon’s OB4CL2= Wu Is Back???

June 17, 2009 by  
Filed under Words From The Genius


Seems like there’s a lot of Wu-Tang material dropping these days, huh? Can’t say I’m surprised. Every couple of years the Clan resurfaces and all the members start dropping projects around the same time. It’s a synergy that worked for them back in the late 90s, and it wouldn’t be farfetched to think it’ll work for them again. The Redman/Method Man album, Blackout 2, just dropped. U-God’s album, Dopium, drops next week on Frank Radio/Babygrande. A new Ghostface single “Forever” leaked two weeks ago. And then there are what seem to be the two biggest projects on deck, the Wu-Tang Chamber Music LP on June 30th, and Raekwon’s Only Built for Cuban Links 2 in August.

Is it a Wu renaissance? Maybe.

I’m probably most excited about the Chamber Music album. In a press release sent out by E1 Music (formerly Koch Records), Rza said:

“This album has a very live element of today’s musicians playing the vibe of Wu-Tang, know what I mean? The vibe we would normally sample, the vibe of things that we would accumulate through old soul songs, jazz songs, kung fu movies whatever, now you’ve got musicians that can play this vibe with Wu-Tang MC’s rapping over it. The goal of this album is definitely paying homage to our early sound. In the old days, we had to sample and find snares and things like that or chord changes just to make a beat. Now, this is being done it with a band. A lot of times, you hear rappers over a live band and that loses the hip-hop because a lot of those bands from the old days wasn’t from the hip-hop generation. On this album, we make it sound like it was in the 36 Chambers era. To me, what also adds to this album, you’ve got the Wu-Tang MCs but you also got your other favorite MCs from that era like Havoc, Cormega and others. This album can be played with a live band and it will sound BIG.”

Listen to a few of the tracks that have leaked and then tell me if they match what he’s describing. I think they do.

Raekwon, MOP, Kool G Rap “Ill Figures”
Ghostface, AZ, Inspectah Deck “Harbormasters”

The thing about this project that is disappointing to me is the way it’s being marketed and sold. E1 is pushing this project calling it a compilation pairing Wu-Tang emcees with 90s rap veterans. But if you look at the tracklisting, there really aren’t that many rap “veterans” on the album.

1. Redemption
2. Kill Too Hard Ft. RZA, Inspectah Deck, U-God, Masta Killa
3. The Abbot Ft. RZA
4. Harbor Masters Ft. RZA, Ghostface Killah, Az, Inspectah Deck
5. Sheep State Ft. Rza
6. Radiant Jewels Ft. RZA, Raekwon, Cormega, Sean Price
7. Supreme Architecture Ft. RZA
8. Evil Deeds Ft. RZA, Ghostface Killah, Havoc
9. Wise Men Ft. RZA
10. I Wish You Were Here Ft. RZA, Ghostface Killah, Tre Williams
11. Fatal Hesitation
12. Ill Figures Ft. RZA, Raekwon, Kool G Rap
13. Free Like ODB Ft. RZA
14. Sound The Horns
15. Enlightened Statues Ft. RZA
16. NYC Crack Ft. RZA
17. One Last Question Ft. RZA

Kool G Rap, Havoc, Cormega, AZ, Sean Price, MOP… those are 6 rap “veterans,” so to speak, but they’re also like the Koch all stars. These guys are all part of that label family, they all collab with one another and ya’know, I just have higher hopes for something billed as a collaboration project with 90s rap veterans. There’s 17 tracks. I mean, let’s keep it funky, this is a Wu-Tang album with a few features.

Then you’ve got the Raekwon LP, which is a whole different animal altogether. My issue with this project seems to be the press Raekwon is doing for it, which centers around the same couple of questions, namely, “What happened with Dr. Dre and Aftermath? What took so long? Why sign with EMI?” I guess that’s what happens when it takes you five years to release an album, and every year you’ve sat there and talked to people about it, done press and so on, never to have the project drop. There’s an interview over at XXLMag.com today, where Rae talks a little about Rza and Dre being in the studio together, and reading it, I said to myself, wow finally something interesting about this LP!!!

Not that I’m not excited about the album. But just put the fucking thing out already dude. I know you’re going on the Rock the Bells tour throughout the summer, and you’ll hype the project. Thing is, you might actually sell more records if the album was out by the time you hit the road. The days of the big first week are over, and even at that, you might only sell 30k copies. I just don’t see a Raekwon album moving many units in this industry climate, and that’s having nothing to do whatsoever with the quality of music on the LP.

So is the Wu back? I don’t know. Blackout 2 didn’t sell many records, even though Red and Meth have been everywhere promoting it. U-God doesn’t have much of a buzz (even though I am digging the records I’ve heard so far), and the Ghostface track hasn’t caught on yet. Rae’s album hasn’t dropped yet, and the Chamber Music LP is being billed as a compilation project, even though it’s not. And furthermore, it came out of nowhere! Granted, hype is hard to come by, but you still gotta make an effort.

I like the Wu music that is dropping right now. Whether anyone cares, that’s the question.


Rza and Me

May 20, 2009 by  
Filed under Words From The Genius


During the weekend of May 16th-18th, I had the pleasure of attending Sha Money XL’s One Stop Shop producer conference, which took place at the Hyatt Regency Hotel in downtown Phoenix, Arizona.

I’d originally ventured to the conference under the pretense that I’d be moderating one of the variety of panel discussions, but wound up as a panelist on the management/A&R panel. Why? Your guess is probably as good as mine, but I imagine it had something to do with Sha Money wanting a 3rd party perspective up there with the A&Rs, someone to sort of balance out whatever information they might be giving. I was on the panel with Gene Nelson from Atlantic Records, Step Johnson Jr. from Interscope Records, Serge who’s an A&R with Jermaine Dupri’s publishing company, Dre McKenzie from G-Unit and a few other folks who– pardon me– I just can’t remember at the moment (my mind’s going blank in my ripe old age ha!).

The highlight of the event was having the opportunity to meet and share a few words with The Rza.

Too often in the music business, people who work in the game tend to spend their time grandstanding and not wanting to show love. I’m guilty of that myself, considering that, admittedly, I don’t have nearly as much respect for the newer acts as the older ones. I mean, I’m just not impressed by these guys. They don’t move me.

Rza moves me.

Maybe not as much as he once did, perhaps maybe not at all right now. But most of my desire to even want to make music comes from being that kid in junior high school, headphones on during the bus ride home, bumping Wu-Tang songs I taped off the radio. Wu-Tang was and still is the illest shit I’ve ever heard in music, period. At the time, I thought Rza was a grand scientist with the beats. It wasn’t until later on in my own production career, when I realized a lot of those incredible beats he was “making,” were in fact just loops he’d expertly dug up from a dusty record bin nobody else was looking in. There’s something to be said for that though. Wikipedia defines a genius as:

…an individual who successfully applies a previously unknown technique in the production of a work of art, science, or calculation, or who masters and personalizes a known technique. A genius typically possesses great intelligence or remarkable abilities in a specific subject, or shows an exceptional natural capacity of intellect and/or ability, especially in the production of creative and original work, something that has never been seen or evaluated previously. Traits often associated with genius include strong individuality, imagination, uniqueness, and innovative drive.

Suffice it to say, I’ve admired his craftiness for all these years. I remember arguing with kids in high school about the first Bobby Digital album, how it was far superior to whatever Ruff Ryders material they were bumping. It was that classic backpack vs. underground war, and the late 90s was when it was in heavy bloom.

Rza and Wu-Tang, in a lot of ways, defined what I wanted my hip-hop to sound like. If it wasn’t Wu-Tang, at a certain point, I just didn’t want to hear it anymore. Their sound was so in its own lane, in its own pocket, in its own little world.

And then my own production career started. I’d been making beats since back before I had even hit double digits in age. I figured out multi-track recording techniques by simply using the microphone portion of a boom box my dad had. I would play a drum pattern out with a juice bottle, record it through the mic on a blank tape. Then I’d take that tape, play it in another boom box, while I was tapping out another pattern, and record the two sounds now playing at once back on the original boom box. *Sigh* My how far we’ve come with the technology, to the point where all I ever wanted to do back then was loop something up, and now all I want to do is figure out how to NOT loop something.

But I digress.

As I entered college in the year 2000, I got more serious about being a producer. Because my girlfriend at the time didn’t get into the same college I got into, I decided to stay local for school. Back then, I still rapped. I was actually pretty good, although I could never get over my tiny white guy voice, which always made me rather unconvincing, no matter how ill the punchlines were. I didn’t really want to rap though, I just wanted to produce. Making the music itself was more aligned with my interests back when I was a quiet 18-year old college student, who spent his free time listening to avant-garde jazz records and reading Herman Hesse novels in my spare time.

That I would go on to work with some of the guys from Wu-Tang was beyond me at the time. But lo and behold, a few years later I was cutting records with Rza’s brother, 9th Prince, of Killarmy, which at the time was one of my favorite offshoots of the Wu brand. I also produced a few songs on Shyheim’s “Greatest Story Never Told.” Raekwon spent some time in the studio I co-owned with my partner at the time, recording “Castle to Castle” with DJ Doo Wop, and I even wound up engineering a recording session for Raekwon in his house some time around 2004. I produced a song called “Shine” for U-God, and he did most of his Hillside Scramblers album in my studio as well, working with my then partner Cue. The Wu-Tang guys would come and go, one day it was Cappadonna, the next it was Inspectah Deck and so on. I have stories for days.

Still, I’d never met Rza.

People would come through to my studio, say they had tracks of his, but you could never tell what was what. I seriously doubt anyone ever came through with an authentic Rza track. I imagine most of what was labeled as Rza stuff was just a collection of tracks that someone swiped from the hard drive at the old 36 Chambers studio.

Ah yes, 36 Chambers. Which is now called something else– the name escapes me at the moment– and at last check, was being leased to Swizz Beats.

Before it became Swizz’s spot, I even put some time in over there, working on some records with various people. Still, no Rza.

When I went the Wu offices that used to be on 34th street and the west side highway (the “new” 36 Chambers) a few years ago, my close buddy, former Trackmasters A&R (read: 50 Cent’s A&R) Gello Jones and I kicked it with Rza’s other brother, Divine. We were meeting to try to come up with a mixtape marketing plan for, you guessed it, Raekwon’s OB4CL2. This was 2005!! Four years, the album is now finally set to drop. Divine even came to my 2nd studio, Lifestyle, when he was trying to buy a building from my business partner, William Martin. To hear him tell it, he wanted to buy a building, put a new studio in it, offices, and so on, raise the Wu flag, and call it a day. Never happened.

Still, hadn’t met Rza.

To go back in time just a bit, there was a brief moment where Rza and I did meet, although it wasn’t anything formal. It was backstage at the Wu concert, at Continental Airlines Arena, the day before ODB died. I remember that concert like it was yesterday because earlier that day I was staring at a computer terminal, taking the GRE exam, which would determine a lot about where I was going to head to grad school. See, I was out of college for roughly 6 months back then, and it was a trying time. I’d lost my mother about a year prior, and although I’d just received my first paid placement (on Freeway presents Ice City: Welcome to the Hood), and was beginning to write here and there for XXL, I wasn’t making much money, and was still living at home. You think post-college, and a lot of times all that is on your mind is getting out there in the world, starting your career, your life and so on. And that wasn’t really happening for me. My partner had bounced to Florida, we closed our studio, and I was back at square 1. So here I am, months in advance, trying to prep for the GRE, studying math and things that I hadn’t looked at in years (god forbid I were to take that exam again now, yikes!), pondering my future and wondering what the next was going to be.

And so I walked into that exam room, not as well-prepared as I would have liked (read: no study), and took the test. It was pouring that day. It was quite depressing actually. I didn’t think I did too well (ended up with a 1090, 6 out of 6 on the writing part though, go figure), and to blow off some steam I decided to hit up the Wu-Tang concert.

If there were any doubt in my mind as to what I was going to do with my life, Wu-Tang cleared it all up that night. All I needed to do was see a sea of heads bobbing in unison to “C.R.E.A.M.” and my mind was set.

Hip-Hop was going to pay the bills.

Backstage Rza gave me a pound real quickly, a little head nod, and kept it moving. That was it. I don’t even think at the time I could really reflect like I’m doing right now. Maybe the moment didn’t mean as much to me five years ago. I wound up in Ghostface’s little corner of the dressing area, chilling with his manager Lord Mike, Trife and the rest of the Theodore Unit dudes, who I obviously knew from cutting records with them.

We had one other moment where we briefly exchanged head nods as well, after a press junket for the H20 Hip-Hop Odyssey Film Awards, where he was also being honored. Again, no real convo though.

Fast forward to a week and a half ago, and here’s Rza on stage, being honored at the One Stop Shop. Tall and wiry, he’s wearing a shirt that says “The New Negro,” and has on his customary black-rimmed glasses. He’s on a panel with production luminaries such as Just Blaze, Hi-Tek, 9th Wonder, Pete Rock, Needlez, Nottz, Don Cannon and Drumma Boy, but to me, he just sorta sticks out amongst the crowd up there. It’s like he doesn’t belong, like he’s in his own class. And that’s no disrespect to anyone else that was up there. I just feel like he fathered a lot of people’s styles. Even Pete Rock’s work, to some extent, started sounding all Wu-Tang-ish in the late 90s (“Strange Fruit” anyone?). It felt like he needed a panel of his own. A friend of mine said he had seen Rza deftly breeze through the lobby the day before, almost unidentifiable. He wasn’t seen again until this panel. Whereas everyone else was mingling with others for the whole weekend, he off on his own, maybe too cool, maybe too accomplished, maybe just too tired, to socialize.

When the panel was over, I walked up to him and said:

“I’m Gooch, the producer from Staten Island.”

His eyes lit up.

“Oh, you from the island? That’s peace.”

“Yeah, I produced a bunch of the songs on your brother 9th’s new album [“Prince of New York“], the one that just dropped on Babygrande.”

“No doubt, he told me about you. Good shit.”

“What’s been going on with you though?”

“Shit, I’m chillin.”

We took a picture, and our conversation ended.

I met Rza.

me on the A&R/Management panel